Philosophical minigame: How much do different activities lose through the experience machine?

Here’s a fun little philosophy mini-game.

Nozick imagines an experience machine, capable of generating experiences, just as vivid, rich and pleasurable as the real thing- for the whole range of desirable human experiences. Nozick argues that experiences had in such a machine would be inherently less meaningful than their real world equivalents.

It seems to me that this may be true of *some* experiences, but not all. Eating a fine meal alone would be no less meaningful in the pleasure machine than eating a fine meal in the real world, but eating a fine meal with friends would be far less meaningful in the pleasure machine than the real world.

We can rank experiences based on how much they lose for being had in a pleasure machine, versus the real world (at least in our perception). Think of such a ranking as being determined by:

(The value of the experience in the pleasure machine)/(The value of the experience in real life)

With higher scores being better.

Assume that the general happiness of yourself and others is being held constant. Thus you shouldn’t rank making a scientific discovery in the real world much higher simply because that will mean there’s one more scientific discovery out there that others will benefit from. Assume all such factors remain constant, except the authenticity of the experience itself.

Try to avoid special constraints based on your own circumstances (e.g., “If I had sex with someone other than my partner in the real world that would be cheating because I am in a relationship, so the value of having sex in the experience machine is actually higher…”)

I’ve included a big list here, so I wouldn’t expect you to rank all of them. Rather, create a few rough indifference classes and indicate which experiences belong in each, and why.

What we are trying to capture and classify here is the intuitive sense that something has been lost. Thus, even if your considered view is that you are a utilitarian and none of them lose anything, try to rank them nonetheless.

Adventures
* Climbing mount Everest
* Extensively travelling the world
* Circumnavigating the world
* Travelling to alpha-centauri
* Travelling to a new city with a great deal of money and generally enjoying yourself
Creative achievements
* Composing history’s greatest poem, novel or artwork
* Creating a new and compelling solution to a philosophical problem
* Solving one of the most important outstanding questions in science
* Solving one of the most important outstanding questions in mathematics
Professional achievements
* Creating a large, successful multi-national company
* Working your way up to the rank of CEO
* Running a company well as a CEO
* Successfully arguing a very important court case
* Winning your preferred sporting event
Philanthropic achievements
* Personally ending poverty (remember! total happiness is held constant whether it happens in the machine or real life)
* Winning a critically important political contest
* Heroically saving a life
Sensory
*Eating a fine meal
*Wandering through a beautiful natural landscape
*Flying without mechanical aid
Sociality
* A great party with strangers
* A great party with friends
* A stimulating intellectual discussion with a stranger
* A stimulating intellectual discussion with a friend
Sex and Romance
* Having sex with someone you have always desired (and know in real life)
* Having sex with a stranger who is extremely attractive to you
* Sharing your ideal romantic evening with someone you have always desired (and know in real life)
* Sharing your ideal romantic evening with a stranger who is extremely attractive to you
Family
* Getting married
* Raising a family
Misc
* Living a long and fulfilling life, roughly similar to most long and fulfilling lives

One thought on “Philosophical minigame: How much do different activities lose through the experience machine?

  1. I think there are 3 classes at work here:

    1. Having a shared space. Do I have to deal with your mess? Are your security dollars paying public police or private security?

    2. Shared understanding. Do we use the same language to describe the same thing? When we talk about “fake news” do we mean the same thing? Does your narrative imply that I should be pathologized or criminalized?

    3. Genetic selection. As a piece of meat that sometimes has experiences how should I allocate my resources? Making more me-meat or enhancing my experiences? Should I encourage my child to date the active, fit, army-of-friends middle-income kid or the chronically sick, friend limited, high-income kid?

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